[OOTB-hive] My challenge to all members of the Order of the Bee

Wed May 30 10:59:54 BST 2018

Hi all,

Thanks for sharing that opinion Younes. Obviously you are a good candidate
for the board. I'm glad you are there.

I also feel that the open source spirit of the company is fading away
again, but there is hope with the work that Kristen, Francesco, and I would
like to include David Webster, are doing for the community. They can't
change the direction of the company, but they can help the community to be
connected and have a communication with the company. That is crucial for
the community to know which path to follow.

Cheers
Boriss

On 30 May 2018 at 10:47, Younes REGAIEG <y.regaieg at gmail.com> wrote:

> Angel, All,
>
> Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I am really happy there is some movement
> back in this list..
>
> I personally think that part of Angel’s analysis is coherent, but I really
> do not think the situation to be as apocalyptical as he had drawn.
>
> I share his impression that alfresco is losing its (real) open-source
> spirit and is more and more being lured into the dark-side, but I do not
> think that battle is lost yet. As a matter of fact, I do think that the
> community does need the Order now more than ever.
> Alfresco is not a charity, it is a profit company but it definitely needs
> this community to continue prospering, I would say now more than the past
> few years, the fact that it (Alfresco) is shifting from being a product
> company to a platform company is on our side, as it puts the Developer at
> the centre of focus again and pumps some life into the community veins… You
> can already sense that in the REBIRTH of the Alfresco DevCon (I think the
> order should have more effect there), the now frequent and recurring
> meetups, the enhancements made to the contribution workflow to Alfresco
> which is now made easier than ever …
>
> I now believe that the order needs to step up once again, and try to
> conserve the gains of this community and continue to pursue its goals…
> I recon that we had problems in the past with participation, and as far as
> I can see, we got into a vicious circle: people want to engage/contribute
> but are afraid of the load that might bring to them -> most people end up
> not being involved -> responsibility and the load falls on the handful of
> people that had stepped up -> After a while those people get tired and step
> down and the circle turns over and over… IMHO, there is only one solution
> to this : ENGAGE ! ; if everyone within this community does engage, there
> will definitely be less load and more fun for everyone !
>
>
> Regards,
> —Younes
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2018, at 09:49, Angel Borroy <angel.borroy at keensoft.es> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just to be clear.
>
> Nothing to say about Francesco and Kristen commitment with the Community,
> they are both great values for every company.
>
> My opinions are not based in “secret” information, as Francesco said it’s
> just a feeling from analysing some facts happened in the last months. Hard
> separation between Sales & Development inside the company has produced a
> toxic ecosystem, where Open Source is relegated to leisure and fun but it’s
> ignored in any other area. This is why I feel sad about Alfresco, and this
> is why I think that Alfresco has changed its direction.
>
> Obviously, I can be wrong. In fact, I’m often wrong in many things.
>
> Best,
>
> Angel Borroy
> keen*soft *a *UST **Global *company
>
> email:   angel.borroy at keensoft.es
> web:     http://www.keensoft.es
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>
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> On 29 May 2018 at 18:09:05, Francesco Corti (fcorti at gmail.com) wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thank you Jeff for putting together some points of challenge and
> commitment for all.
> As member of the Community (not only as Alfrescan) I think that now it's a
> good timing for a discussion about "what's next".
>
> From my point of view the OOTBee has been a success, after some years of
> existence, and now it would be a good timing to define its future.
> From this point of view: I'm in (in my role of Alfrescan and member of the
> Community).
>
> Me and Kristen (but we can extend the list with other names, internal and
> external to Alfresco) are already thinking about new initiatives, but of
> course we need you (OOTBee or whatever it will be) to be more effective.
> An example: how can we succeed in having more local meetups (and staying
> where the developers are) without people like Ana Gouveia supporting us
> with a venue each couple of month in the London area?
> This is only an example (and probably I'm doing something wrong quoting
> one person only), but this is the level of commitment we might need.
>
> I'm sorry to hear Angel's lack of confidence and all the changes that
> happened (and are happening) into Alfresco as an organisation are not
> helping to understand.
>
> With this email I would like to ensure my availability to contribute to
> this initiative.
> Looking forward to hear about the next steps.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -F
>
> Il giorno mar 29 mag 2018 alle ore 16:37 Angel Borroy <
> angel.borroy at keensoft.es> ha scritto:
>
>> Thanks for making real all the feelings about OOTB we are sharing.
>>
>> In my opinion, there is no future for Alfresco and the Community. Despite
>> Francesco, Kristen et al are doing a lot to empower the Community, the new
>> (old?) Direction of Alfresco is targeting the product to a fake “Open
>> Source” company. My guess is that Alfresco Community will be useless in a
>> year or two. During this transition many Community developers (like me)
>> will find another technologies to work with. So, in the end, the Community
>> will die by its own.
>>
>> Taking this into account, I feel that OOTB mission is far ambitious, as
>> it will become harder and harder with the time.
>>
>> We had wonderful (and joyful) years for the OOTB, achieving incredible
>> goals. But this time is past.
>>
>> Probably this is why I’m (also) rejecting the nomination for the Board,
>> because I think that Alfresco Community has no future.
>>
>> Don’t misunderstand me, I’ve met incredible people in this organisation
>> and I’ve been pleased to collaborate with them. Moreover, I’ve learnt a lot
>> and I’ve grown as person and developer. So I have only good feelings around
>> OOTB.
>>
>> Anyway, I’ll be ready to collaborate with the new Board if this
>> organisation continues operating.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Angel Borroy
>> keen*soft *a *UST **Global *company
>>
>> email:   angel.borroy at keensoft.es
>> web:     http://www.keensoft.es
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>> On 29 May 2018 at 16:11:09, Jeff Potts (jeffpotts01 at gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>> The Order of the Bee began during a time of great uncertainty for our
>> community. It was started, in part, as a reminder to Alfresco Software,
>> Inc. (and to ourselves) that there is a group of people, distributed across
>> the globe, that care deeply about both the software and the community of
>> people involved in making, using, implementing, and customizing that
>> software.
>>
>> Since then, The Order has achieved many things. It organized and executed
>> two outstanding events. It took ownership of the Support Tools project and
>> drove it forward. It served as a "brand" with which those truly passionate
>> about the community could identify.
>>
>> Today the future for Alfresco and the community is no more certain than
>> it was in 2014. Yet, I feel like our organization has lost its way. The
>> board never meets formally. The subcommittees have mostly stopped work.
>> Even simple, focused efforts aimed at getting more people involved and
>> producing output fell flat.
>>
>> As we look to electing a new board I would like to challenge each of you
>> to think about the following:
>>   * Does this organization still make sense?
>>   * If so, does the mission need to be adjusted?
>>   * If the mission is still good, how will we execute differently in
>> order to achieve it?
>>   * If changes are needed, what are those changes?
>>
>> I am raising this during the elections because I think it is important
>> for board candidates to express their thoughts in these areas. But it is
>> not the board's sole responsibility to set and drive the mission--they are
>> just custodians.
>>
>> *My challenge is for all members to consider why this organization
>> exists, whether it should continue to exist, and, if so, what needs to
>> change to move it forward and how you will help make that happen.*
>>
>> Jeff
>>
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