[OOTB-hive] Docker(/Kubernetes) - My ideas for potential work (re: Daren's mail)

Mon Nov 26 10:33:35 GMT 2018

Good morning guys,

I'm afraid there is something to adjust.
ACS 6.1 Community Edition won't be a GA release.
I think John mentioned the EE release (that will be GA by default).
Just a heads up.
In every case, the initiative continue to be a good idea.

Cheers,

-F

Il giorno lun 26 nov 2018 alle ore 10:29 Angel Borroy <
angel.borroy at keensoft.es> ha scritto:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry for being so vague. I have no more information than you, as UST
> Global is not still an Alfresco partner. We are applying from June but it
> looks like Alfresco has plenty of skilled partners in Spain and there is no
> room for one more. Two weeks ago I started an Enterprise project in
> collaboration with a local partner, as Alfresco forbid UST Global to work
> with Community (despite we are not partners nowadays). I’m starting to be
> very concerned about Alfresco Sales ecosystem, but probably it’s only my
> pov.
>
> Anyway, you are right, John Knowles said that they will publish an ACS
> Community release in GA status. But, afaik, this is the first Community
> release released after the Enterprise one. Error or strategy? Who knows…
>
> Let’s focus on this initiative and let’s keep apart all my bad feelings
> about the life in general.
>
> Best,
>
> Angel Borroy
> keen*soft *a *UST **Global *company
>
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> On 26 November 2018 at 09:43:45, Axel Faust (axel.faust.g at googlemail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Hello Angel,
>
> since you now are a partner, you may have some information I don't get to
> see - but last time John Knowles was on IRC (~2 weeks ago) he indicated
> that the next ACS Community release would be a GA, so ACS 6.1 would have a
> Community equivalent.
>
> Regards, Axel
> On 26/11/2018 09:36, Angel Borroy wrote:
>
> Nice idea, Axel.
>
> I’m open to collaborate, despite my basic skills on Docker, k8s and many
> other relevant software involved in the “new” Alfresco.
>
> Now that Alfresco is ignoring deliberatively the Community (ACS 6.1 will
> be published without having a Community equivalent), it’s time to act.
> Probably providing a deployment and developing environment for everyone is
> the right approach.
>
> I’m not able to organise this initiative, but let me know if I can help in
> any way.
>
> Best,
>
> Angel Borroy
> keen*soft *a *UST **Global *company
>
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> On 25 November 2018 at 22:57:06, Axel Faust (axel.faust.g at googlemail.com)
> wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> TL;DR: Instead of revisiting our previous pre-bundled Community build
> idea, maybe more short-term / easier to realize value could be gained by
> collaborating on guides / documentation / examples regarding Docker
> deployments to help community members make the switch, AND/OR create a
> standard build setup (in lieu of an updated Alfresco SDK that may never
> arrive) incorporating the new deployment approach and achieving full
> compatibility with the most recent Alfresco releases.
>
> This mail is a revisit of a mail Daren sent in the middle of the thread
> for volunteers for the DevCon talk submission review ([1]). I don't know
> how many actually read the mail considering the misleading subject line.
> In it he asked if there is interest in revisiting our previous work
> around a pre-bundled Alfresco Community build (at the time using puppet)
> and maybe adapted / updating that to be in line with the current Docker
> / Kubernetes approach.
>
> In the last two months I have had the (dis-)pleasure to familiarize
> myself with the current state of the Alfresco Docker and Helm charts /
> Kubernetes work in preparation for a training at an Alfresco partner.
> Anyone following me on Twitter might have seen a rant or two. It
> certainly is not the most intuitive and not helped by the fact that
> Alfresco tends to break stuff shortly after providing an initially
> working state.
>
> Given how tricky it can be for community members / customers to switch
> over to the new approach without any prior experience, I would say that
> any guides / documentation that we as the Order could collaboratively
> put together would be much more valuable/needed at this point than
> simply revisiting the pre-bundled build. As both the Docker Compose
> scripts and Helm charts from Alfresco should only be considered as a
> starting point / reference rather than a ready-to-use setup, we might
> also want to look into providing improved variants for these (Helm may
> be a lower priority as it/Kubernetes likely is not relevant for most
> community users). I know that Angel has already done work in the area of
> an improved compose reference ([2]) - maybe that could be a starting
> point to flesh out / improve upon...
>
> In my training I have also integrated the new Docker images as a runtime
> environment for ("not-really-rapid") application development in my Maven
> setup, and also used it for the integration tests therein. In another,
> personal project I have started to use Docker containers even for my
> regular unit tests.
> Alfresco has still not released a SDK natively compatible with Alfresco
> 6, and given their long-term goal of moving customers/users off of
> in-process extensions may likely not provide an updated version anytime
> soon. I know most people in the Order have sufficient skill to adapt the
> current SDK to work with 6, but that is likely not true for most
> community users out there. So maybe we as the Order should look into
> providing a reference build setup of our own, using the new
> incorporating the new Docker approach as best as possible. And maybe
> such work will naturally lead us to general improvements / definition of
> a base image e.g. with regards to image size, code+test round-trip time
> etc...
>
> Regards
>
> Axel
>
>
> [1]
> http://lists.xtreamlab.net/pipermail/ootb-hive/2018-September/001028.html
>
> [2] https://github.com/keensoft/docker-alfresco
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