<div dir="ltr">Good morning guys,<div><br></div><div>I'm afraid there is something to adjust.<br>ACS 6.1 Community Edition won't be a GA release.</div><div>I think John mentioned the EE release (that will be GA by default).</div><div>Just a heads up.</div><div>In every case, the initiative continue to be a good idea.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>-F</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Il giorno lun 26 nov 2018 alle ore 10:29 Angel Borroy <<a href="mailto:angel.borroy@keensoft.es" target="_blank">angel.borroy@keensoft.es</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Hi,</div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Sorry for being so vague. I have no more information than you, as UST Global is not still an Alfresco partner. We are applying from June but it looks like Alfresco has plenty of skilled partners in Spain and there is no room for one more. Two weeks ago I started an Enterprise project in collaboration with a local partner, as Alfresco forbid UST Global to work with Community (despite we are not partners nowadays). I’m starting to be very concerned about Alfresco Sales ecosystem, but probably it’s only my pov.</div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Anyway, you are right, John Knowles said that they will publish an ACS Community release in GA status. But, afaik, this is the first Community release released after the Enterprise one. Error or strategy? Who knows…</div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Let’s focus on this initiative and let’s keep apart all my bad feelings about the life in general.</div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px;line-height:auto">Best,</div> <br> <div id="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_sign_1543224161918328064" class="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945bloop_sign"><span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"></span><p style="font-family:Helvetica;line-height:normal;font-size:medium;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Angel Borroy</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><br></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(94,198,242)">keen</span><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(58,55,59)">soft </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">a </span><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(192,0,0)">UST </span></b><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(127,127,127)">Global </span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:8pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153)">company</span></p><p style="font-family:Helvetica;line-height:normal;font-size:medium;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">email: </span><a href="mailto:angel.borroy@keensoft.es" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:blue">angel.borroy@keensoft.es</span></a><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>web: </span><a href="http://www.keensoft.es/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:blue">http://www.keensoft.es</span></a><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><br>móvil: <a>+34 655 47 47 55</a></span></p><p style="font-family:Helvetica;line-height:normal;font-size:medium;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)">CONFIDENCIALIDAD:</span></p><p style="font-family:Helvetica;line-height:normal;font-size:medium;color:rgb(34,34,34)"><span style="font-size:9pt;color:rgb(153,153,153)">La presente comunicación y, en su caso, los ficheros que lleve adjuntos, pertenecen exclusivamente a las personas a las que va dirigido y puede contener información confidencial. 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If you have received this message in error please notify it to the sender and destroy it immediately.</span></p></div> <br><p class="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945airmail_on">On 26 November 2018 at 09:43:45, Axel Faust (<a href="mailto:axel.faust.g@googlemail.com" target="_blank">axel.faust.g@googlemail.com</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945clean_bq"><span><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div></div><div>
<p>Hello Angel,</p>
<p>since you now are a partner, you may have some information I
don't get to see - but last time John Knowles was on IRC (~2 weeks
ago) he indicated that the next ACS Community release would be a
GA, so ACS 6.1 would have a Community equivalent.</p>
<p>Regards, Axel<br></p>
<div class="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/2018 09:36, Angel Borroy
wrote:<br></div>
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Nice idea, Axel.</div>
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I’m open to collaborate, despite my basic skills on Docker, k8s and
many other relevant software involved in the “new” Alfresco.</div>
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Now that Alfresco is ignoring deliberatively the Community (ACS 6.1
will be published without having a Community equivalent), it’s time
to act. Probably providing a deployment and developing environment
for everyone is the right approach.</div>
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I’m not able to organise this initiative, but let me know if I can
help in any way.</div>
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Best,</div>
<br>
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<span style="font-size:10pt;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Angel
Borroy</span><span style="font-size:10pt"><br></span>
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<p class="m_2548926153693929836m_5608294723039762945airmail_on">On 25 November 2018 at 22:57:06, Axel Faust
(<a href="mailto:axel.faust.g@googlemail.com" target="_blank">axel.faust.g@googlemail.com</a>) wrote:</p>
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<div><span>Hello guys,<br>
<br>
TL;DR: Instead of revisiting our previous pre-bundled Community
build<br>
idea, maybe more short-term / easier to realize value could be
gained by<br>
collaborating on guides / documentation / examples regarding
Docker<br>
deployments to help community members make the switch, AND/OR
create a<br>
standard build setup (in lieu of an updated Alfresco SDK that may
never<br>
arrive) incorporating the new deployment approach and achieving
full<br>
compatibility with the most recent Alfresco releases.<br>
<br>
This mail is a revisit of a mail Daren sent in the middle of the
thread<br>
for volunteers for the DevCon talk submission review ([1]). I don't
know<br>
how many actually read the mail considering the misleading subject
line.<br>
In it he asked if there is interest in revisiting our previous
work<br>
around a pre-bundled Alfresco Community build (at the time using
puppet)<br>
and maybe adapted / updating that to be in line with the current
Docker<br>
/ Kubernetes approach.<br>
<br>
In the last two months I have had the (dis-)pleasure to
familiarize<br>
myself with the current state of the Alfresco Docker and Helm
charts /<br>
Kubernetes work in preparation for a training at an Alfresco
partner.<br>
Anyone following me on Twitter might have seen a rant or two.
It<br>
certainly is not the most intuitive and not helped by the fact
that<br>
Alfresco tends to break stuff shortly after providing an
initially<br>
working state.<br>
<br>
Given how tricky it can be for community members / customers to
switch<br>
over to the new approach without any prior experience, I would say
that<br>
any guides / documentation that we as the Order could
collaboratively<br>
put together would be much more valuable/needed at this point
than<br>
simply revisiting the pre-bundled build. As both the Docker
Compose<br>
scripts and Helm charts from Alfresco should only be considered as
a<br>
starting point / reference rather than a ready-to-use setup, we
might<br>
also want to look into providing improved variants for these (Helm
may<br>
be a lower priority as it/Kubernetes likely is not relevant for
most<br>
community users). I know that Angel has already done work in the
area of<br>
an improved compose reference ([2]) - maybe that could be a
starting<br>
point to flesh out / improve upon...<br>
<br>
In my training I have also integrated the new Docker images as a
runtime<br>
environment for ("not-really-rapid") application development in my
Maven<br>
setup, and also used it for the integration tests therein. In
another,<br>
personal project I have started to use Docker containers even for
my<br>
regular unit tests.<br>
Alfresco has still not released a SDK natively compatible with
Alfresco<br>
6, and given their long-term goal of moving customers/users off
of<br>
in-process extensions may likely not provide an updated version
anytime<br>
soon. I know most people in the Order have sufficient skill to
adapt the<br>
current SDK to work with 6, but that is likely not true for
most<br>
community users out there. So maybe we as the Order should look
into<br>
providing a reference build setup of our own, using the new<br>
incorporating the new Docker approach as best as possible. And
maybe<br>
such work will naturally lead us to general improvements /
definition of<br>
a base image e.g. with regards to image size, code+test round-trip
time<br>
etc...<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Axel<br>
<br>
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