[OOTB-hive] Any thoughts on OOTBee owning projects or OOTBee access to Maven Central

Fri Nov 11 16:04:42 GMT 2016

Right - nothing should be in a ootb namespace if it has not been accepted /
intended to be owned. In the mail in October I included some aspects of
what it means for an addon / tool to be owned by the Order as a
conversation starter - unfortunately without the conversation taking off
afterwards...

On 11 November 2016 at 16:18, Jeff Potts <jeffpotts01 at gmail.com> wrote:

> It seems to me that nothing should be in the ootb namespace or in an ootb
> managed artifact repo unless it is explicitly accepted into the
> organization as a project that the organization will actively maintain. An
> exception would be something developed specifically for ootb, like a tool
> or module that the order uses for internal systems.
>
> I don't think anyone has defined what "explicitly accepted into the
> organization" entails or what it means.
>
> My opinion is that if something is in that namespace or in an ootb managed
> artifact repo it means the organization is committed to maintaining the
> project and should be held accountable if it is not. Therefore the
> community or some sub-set of the community needs to have a say as to what's
> included.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Ian Wright <tech at wrighting.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree that it's useful to have dependencies available on Maven Central.
>>
>> Under some circumstances you can use jitpack.io as an alternative.
>>
>> What does ownership of projects imply re ongoing maintenance and support?
>> - e.g. if the owner of a useful project leaves the Alfresco community
>>
>> The related question I actually wanted to raise here is the use of the
>> ootb namespace prefix.
>>
>> Not pointing any fingers but I know of at least one project I was
>> thinking of using that has a content model with a namespace prefix of ootb
>>
>> There's an obvious risk of conflict here so perhaps there should be some
>> guidelines
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ian
>> On 08/11/16 09:38, Tahir Malik wrote:
>>
>> Sorry all I was on a well deserved vacation so couldn't reply.
>>
>> I'm always in for a OOTB github. I want to add my own project(s), my own
>> patches to it as well (I guess there was a mailing about patches which
>> didn't really fly off).
>> I probably want to merge my community admin-console with the
>> support-tools done at the Hackaton so untill it isn't a general OOTB
>> project, I probably won't :P.
>> I only use Maven when needed, so no opinion here.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Andrea Barisone
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 7:44PM
>> *To:* Axel Faust, Jeff Potts
>> *Cc:* Ootb-hive
>> *Subject:* Re: [OOTB-hive] Any thoughts on OOTBee owning projects or
>> OOTBee access to Maven Central
>> Hi all, I completely agree with Jeff because it is easier to have many
>> dependencies hosted on Maven Central, for ease of use. I've experienced
>> myself some difficulties and a lot of time spent to have Alfresco
>> dependencies mirrored on our internal Nexus, since for security reasons we
>> can't directly access external repositories. Regards, Andrea
>>
>> Il giorno lun 7 nov 2016 alle 19:36 Jeff Potts <jeffpotts01 at gmail.com>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>>> I recently published several of my add-ons to Maven Central for that
>>> reason. It's just easier for people to consume.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Axel Faust <axel.faust.g at googlemail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Angel,
>>>
>>> thanks for the reaction. Maven Central would be important to ensure you
>>> can simply use Alfresco SDK without needing to add any custom repositories.
>>> Alfresco SDK - as far as I know - only provides the Alfresco artifacts
>>> repository as a custom repository, and any AMPs / JARs not available via
>>> this repository or Maven Central can not be included in builds unless a
>>> user manually adds a <repository> tag to their project POM.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Axel
>>>
>>> On 7 November 2016 at 19:25, Angel Borroy <angel.borroy at keensoft.es>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, all
>>>
>>> Sorry, those messages are buried down hundreds of reminders and tasks…
>>>
>>> In my opinion, it’s a nice idea to have an OOTBee github repository with
>>> contributed projects. I’ll include my own under this structure.
>>>
>>> Related to Maven Central… I don’t see the point of having it published
>>> there, maybe because I’m using Alfresco SDK. Which are the advantages to
>>> have artifacts published?
>>>
>>> Thanks and sorry for my delay.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Angel Borroy
>>> keen*soft*
>>>
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>>> El 7 de noviembre de 2016 a las 19:21:38, Axel Faust (
>>> axel.faust.g at googlemail.com) escribió:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> in October I asked about comments / thoughts on two topics that might be
>>> relevant to handle for the Order of the Bee:
>>> 1) The question of "if" and "how" projects could be owned by OOTBee / be
>>> transferred to it (https://xtreamlab.net/piperma
>>> il/ootb-hive/2016-October/000906.html)
>>> 2) OOTBee publishing artifacts to Maven Central and how that should be
>>> handled (https://xtreamlab.net/pipermail/ootb-hive/2016-October/
>>> 000907.html)
>>>
>>> There has been zero feedback which can either mean that there is no
>>> interest in doing any of it at all, or that there is perfect agreement with
>>> everything that I suggested / put forward. It is difficult to judge which
>>> one is true though I tend to assume the former rather than the latter.
>>>
>>> So - a friendly reminder for anyone that may have something to add /
>>> discuss.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Axel
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