[OOTB-hive] Any thoughts on OOTBee owning projects or OOTBee access to Maven Central

Sat Nov 12 22:45:40 GMT 2016

I agree, and in fact just a couple of days ago I deleted something from
the OOTB github which I had prematurely added some time ago; I think
that for things to be in the OOTB namespace or in github or any other
space where confusion can occur then they should be explicitly part of
OOTB including a commitment to maintain them, and if that commitment
cannot be guaranteed (by the original or some other party) then such
projects should be retired from the OOTB realm.

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  martin at bettercode.com

On Fri, 11 Nov 2016, at 05:04 PM, Axel Faust wrote:
> Right - nothing should be in a ootb namespace if it has not been
> accepted / intended to be owned. In the mail in October I included
> some aspects of what it means for an addon / tool to be owned by the
> Order as a conversation starter - unfortunately without the
> conversation taking off afterwards...
>
> On 11 November 2016 at 16:18, Jeff Potts
> <jeffpotts01 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> It seems to me that nothing should be in the ootb namespace or in an
>> ootb managed artifact repo unless it is explicitly accepted into the
>> organization as a project that the organization will actively
>> maintain. An exception would be something developed specifically for
>> ootb, like a tool or module that the order uses for internal systems.
>> I don't think anyone has defined what "explicitly accepted into the
>> organization" entails or what it means.
>>
>> My opinion is that if something is in that namespace or in an ootb
>> managed artifact repo it means the organization is committed to
>> maintaining the project and should be held accountable if it is not.
>> Therefore the community or some sub-set of the community needs to
>> have a say as to what's included.
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 7:47 AM, Ian Wright
>> <tech at wrighting.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I agree that it's useful to have dependencies available on Maven
>>> Central.
>>> Under some circumstances you can use jitpack.io as an alternative.
>>> What does ownership of projects imply re ongoing maintenance and
>>> support? - e.g. if the owner of a useful project leaves the Alfresco
>>> community
>>> The related question I actually wanted to raise here is the use of
>>> the ootb namespace prefix.
>>> Not pointing any fingers but I know of at least one project I was
>>> thinking of using that has a content model with a namespace prefix
>>> of ootb
>>> There's an obvious risk of conflict here so perhaps there should be
>>> some guidelines
>>> Regards,
>>> Ian
>>>
>>> On 08/11/16 09:38, Tahir Malik wrote:
>>>> Sorry all I was on a well deserved vacation so couldn't reply.
>>>>
>>>>  I'm always in for a OOTB github. I want to add my own project(s),
>>>>  my own patches to it as well (I guess there was a mailing about
>>>>  patches which didn't really fly off).
>>>>  I probably want to merge my community admin-console with the support-
>>>>  tools done at the Hackaton so untill it isn't a general OOTB
>>>>  project, I probably won't :P.
>>>>  I only use Maven when needed, so no opinion here.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Andrea Barisone
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 7:44PM
>>>> *To:* Axel Faust, Jeff Potts
>>>> *Cc:* Ootb-hive
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OOTB-hive] Any thoughts on OOTBee owning projects
>>>> or OOTBee access to Maven Central
>>>> Hi all, I completely agree with Jeff because it is easier to have
>>>> many dependencies hosted on Maven Central, for ease of use. I've
>>>> experienced myself some difficulties and a lot of time spent to
>>>> have Alfresco dependencies mirrored on our internal Nexus, since
>>>> for security reasons we can't directly access external
>>>> repositories.  Regards, Andrea
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno lun 7 nov 2016 alle 19:36 Jeff Potts
>>>> <jeffpotts01 at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>>>> I recently published several of my add-ons to Maven Central for
>>>>> that reason. It's just easier for people to consume.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Axel Faust
>>>>> <axel.faust.g at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Angel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for the reaction. Maven Central would be important to
>>>>>> ensure you can simply use Alfresco SDK without needing to add any
>>>>>> custom repositories. Alfresco SDK - as far as I know - only
>>>>>> provides the Alfresco artifacts repository as a custom
>>>>>> repository, and any AMPs / JARs not available via this repository
>>>>>> or Maven Central can not be included in builds unless a user
>>>>>> manually adds a <repository> tag to their project POM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Axel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 November 2016 at 19:25, Angel Borroy
>>>>>> <angel.borroy at keensoft.es> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, those messages are buried down hundreds of reminders and
>>>>>>> tasks…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my opinion, it’s a nice idea to have an OOTBee github
>>>>>>> repository with contributed projects. I’ll include my own under
>>>>>>> this structure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Related to Maven Central… I don’t see the point of having it
>>>>>>> published there, maybe because I’m using Alfresco SDK. Which are
>>>>>>> the advantages to have artifacts published?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks and sorry for my delay.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> El 7 de noviembre de 2016 a las 19:21:38, Axel Faust
>>>>>>> (axel.faust.g at googlemail.com) escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> in October I asked about comments / thoughts on two topics that
>>>>>>>> might be relevant to handle for the Order of the Bee:
>>>>>>>>  1) The question of "if" and "how" projects could be owned by
>>>>>>>>     OOTBee / be transferred to it
>>>>>>>>     (https://xtreamlab.net/pipermail/ootb-hive/2016-October/000906.html)
>>>>>>>> 2) OOTBee publishing artifacts to Maven Central and how that
>>>>>>>>    should be handled
>>>>>>>>    (https://xtreamlab.net/pipermail/ootb-hive/2016-October/000907.html)
>>>>>>>> There has been zero feedback which can either mean that there
>>>>>>>> is no interest in doing any of it at all, or that there is
>>>>>>>> perfect agreement with everything that I suggested / put
>>>>>>>> forward. It is difficult to judge which one is true though I
>>>>>>>> tend to assume the former rather than the latter.
>>>>>>>> So - a friendly reminder for anyone that may have something to
>>>>>>>> add / discuss.
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> Axel
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