[OOTB-hive] New communication platform for our community?

Tahir Malik tahir.malik at contezza.nl
Wed Jul 27 13:33:30 BST 2016 

I'm going to stop replying after this, cause it's getting repetitive.

I never and I don't think anyone did say to kill everything and put all 
our money on this new tool.
Mailinglist won't be killed, it's probably still there and if needed to 
communicate about maybe the new Event we'll organize it's Cool!.

IRC will probably remain as well, cause Alfresco is still on IRC (I'm 
never there though).

You just set something up, it's probably 5 clicks and inviting the 30 
members and you're done.
Do a review after a month orso and if it sucks big time, you fall back 
or get another tool.

What we're missing is the incentive that everyone want's to go to 
something new.
There is no need in putting in effort if not the majority is pleased 
with this step.

So my last line regarding this topic for let's say today :P.
@board-members: can you all say something about it? Preferably with 
Yes/No or start a Vote so we can get past this phase? :)

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*From:* Daniel Gradecak
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:12PM
*To:* Tahir Malik
*Cc:* Ootb-hive
*Subject:* Re: [OOTB-hive] New communication platform for our community?
Tahir, you have the point. However I wonder why we could not start 
integrating those bits with slack, instead of starting using it 
immediately. Step by step could be, add all channels to slack, configure 
slack to get the information from anywhere we want, and make it the 
single point of all the information and channels we are all using at 
this moment. Just talking out loud, might be something we could start 
with, and we keep the existing infrastructure as is. What do you think?

For my self I am using slack a lot for email communications, trello 
cards/tasks and some other tools, just that I have everything in a 
single place when I need to find something. I am not sure what kind of 
integration slack has with IRC but a simple search offers a couple of 
possibilities, however someone needs to investigate of course and 
cofnigure it. And to spice this thing up 
http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/03/24/slack-is-quietly-unintentionally-killing-irc/#gref

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Tahir Malik <tahir.malik at contezza.nl 
<mailto:tahir.malik at contezza.nl>> wrote:

    Because we're physically so far away from each other communication
    is key to make anything a success.
    And if your communication sucks then the result probably won't be as
    planned and people will engage less.

    Same for this akward mailing list:
    Mail with subject: Re: [OOTB-hive] New communication platform for
    our community?
    Mail with subject: Re: [OOTB-hive] OOTB contribution issues
    Mail with subject: Re: [OOTB-hive] Slack

    Wow and yes they all seem to be talking about the same subject......
    and how is to blame? People who can't find their way on which topic
    is discussed where and have to read them all otherwise someone
    discussed something somewhere else he/she didn't read?

    I hear this quite a lot, yes this/that has been discussed on IRC.
    So someone needs to go to IRC, to the archives find the discussion
    which can be discussed in different timelines and by different
    people and then respond to it in IRC or start a new mailing.
    Who un-controlled is this for our communication.

    We are volunteers and If I need to spend more time to communicate in
    this community then at work & pesonal life, then Yes I will be less
    engaged in this. So the question is not why are people not engaged?
    Questions is why do we make it hard for people to engage.

    Just some quick facts:
    - average count on IRC whenever I logon 10 users
    - count of different users reply on mailinglist at least 20 users
    from the past 6 months (if I do a total of 2 years there are
    probably more)
    - users in the Order 30

    So these facts clearly state the point I and some others are making.

    I've got some ideas/projects to start with, but I'm not sure how to
    communicate efficiently with the users who might want to contribute.
    Efficiently is to add them on Skype and start discussing stuff
    instead of the current communication platform used.

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    *From:* Martin
    *Sent:* Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:47AM
    *To:* Ootb-hive
    *Cc:*
    *Subject:* Re: [OOTB-hive] New communication platform for our community?
>>     To be clear: I am not against changing the platform per-se. But I
>>     have strong reservations against doing something "for the heck of
>>     it" / "because X is cool" without tangible indicators / evidence
>>     that it's necessary / objectively benefits the Order or its role
>>     within the Community, especially if any effort could very well be
>>     spent on other activities with more direct results.
>     +1 to this, I just thought I would try out mattermost since I had
>     time to do so.
>     As I mentioned in IRC to Olivier this morning, for me content
>     previews etc from github gists or wherever is not compelling to
>     me, however the ability to share files inside the communication
>     application is a pretty good feature that is always really hard to
>     get working in IRC, despite the protocols for it having been
>     around since I've been using IRC (which is nearly 20 years now!)
>
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