[OOTB-hive] OOTB contribution issues

[Daniel Gradecak]

I just started answering to the previous conversation when I read your
email Andreas ;)

I think Axel is right when he says and this is your point too, "How will
changing the tooling for communication help us with the most pressing
problem that only very few people actually contribute / work on some of the
activities that the Order set out to do?".

I would like to be more engaged with the Order but honestly I do not see
the added value with what is being done right now in the same way you
discribed Andreas.
My opinion is that the Order focused too much on Share addons for instance,
instead of making Alfresco a more approachable platform.
As a freelancer, I always use Alfresco a a platform on top of which I have
my open source modules that allow much faster developement without
Webscripts (I do not like them), I suggested that once but at the end there
is no interest.
Most of my work is doing custom UI and I use the best of Alfresco to
achieve that, and the best IMO is the repository side. I can agree that
Share is what people see at the end.

Anyhow, I would much more enagaged if I can see an added value in all this
work than just putting addons inside of share.

Sure, I do not want to start a debate either, but just felt the right time
to let you know my opinion ;)

On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Daniel Gradecak <daniel at gradecak.com>
wrote:

> I just started answering to the previous conversation when I read your
> email Andreas ;)
>
> I think Axel is right when he says and this is your point too, "How will
> changing the tooling for communication help us with the most pressing
> problem that only very few people actually contribute / work on some of the
> activities that the Order set out to do?".
>
> I would like to be more engaged with the Order but honestly I do not see
> the added value with what is being done right now in the same way you
> discribed Andreas.
> My opinion is that the Order focused too much on Share addons for
> instance, instead of making Alfresco a more approachable platform.
> As a freelancer, I always use Alfresco a a platform on top of which I have
> my open source modules that allow much faster developement without
> Webscripts (I do not like them), I suggested that once but at the end there
> is no interest.
> Most of my work is doing custom UI and I use the best of Alfresco to
> achieve that, and the best IMO is the repository side. I can agree that
> Share is what people see at the end.
>
> Anyhow, I would much more enagaged if I can see an added value in all this
> work than just putting addons inside of share.
>
> Sure, I do not want to start a debate either, but just felt the right time
> to let you know my opinion ;)
>
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Andreas Steffan <
> a.steffan at contentreich.de> wrote:
>
>> I think the question we should ask is: Why are people not contributing?
>>
>> I may have missed things, but I'll tell you my story:
>>
>> I think OOTB generally has a very tiny workforce. Suggested solutions
>> seem way overkill and complex in terms of effort. People even disagree
>> about them. Things get stuck. Typical enterprise patterns. :) Some ideas
>> may not even address actual needs.
>>
>> What is really needed? What is feasible?
>>
>> INFRA amongst other things depends on ADDONS and DISTRO (which I think
>> is also meant to bundle the former?).
>>
>> If DISTRO is really meant to bundle ADDONS, personally I would not use
>> it. Why? Because most add-ons have issues and stability matters a lot to
>> me. Can those issues be fixed? Depends. Some require tweaks not covered
>> by extension points. The "fact" that most add-ons introduce issues is
>> the reason why I personally just use one from addons.alfresco.com - the
>> JS console (albeit a custom fork). Another personal issue is that I find
>> amps cumbersome to use and hence, don't use them at all. Your mileage
>> vary and that's ok. However, I'd be interested to know how many add-ons
>> there are on average in a production system.
>>
>> Other than that, DISTRO is meant to be more stable than plain CE, right?
>>
>> So lets see what's feasible in terms of patching/bugfixes.
>>
>> How many CE releases can be supported?
>>
>> I'd say very few due to the small workforce. Personally I'd prefer a
>> jar-drop-in implementation for simplicities sake.
>>
>> As for Slack: I think it is awesome and it works great for other Open
>> Source projects. There are workarounds for "issues" like
>> Google-indexing. Still I'd suggest to keep this can of worms closed
>> until the real issues are resolved.
>>
>> cheers
>> Andreas
>>
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