[OOTB-hive] [INFRA] Virtual Hackathon - Capability of hosting integration/demo environments?
Axel Faust
axel.faust at prodyna.com
Wed Jul 20 13:34:45 BST 2016
Hello Heiko,
I am cross-posting this conversation to main list so it can be continued there even after closure of the sub-list.
Sorry for not getting back to this sooner. The last week was quite busy with a lot of project hand-offs before start of my vacation.
One thing I definitely was not intending as part of my suggestion is that participants of such an event would actually need to log into shell access or anything like that on the instances we would provide. It should all be a rather automated / managed service that basically uses input provided via a "to-be-defined" method (i.e. WAR/AMP artifacts, or a Maven-based project to build them), and auto-provides the system. This could be triggered by a vetted person / member of INFRA/OOTBee (or potentially automatically by polling i.e. a GitHub repository branch), so access would be limited to trustworthy, non-abusive people. Similarly, I would also pre-define or restrict some components / services that are more likely to be used for "abuse", e.g. outbound SMTP. I have used "loopback" in the past to have outbound SMTP send mails to Alfresco itself via inbound SMTP for a few demo environments, or simply put a local SMTP/IMAP server in place that was not allowed to forward to external servers.
I don't see a specific licensing issue right now because I am not fully informed about the current setup. I have heard VMWare and a Windows-based management VM mentioned in talks with Martin and Lanre, so naturally I am apprehensive of constraints this might impose. Even if some VMWare products are free, I remember from a couple of years ago that they had specific restrictions to the free-use scenarios.
Regards
Axel
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Von: Heiko Robert [mailto:heiko.orderofthebee.info at ecm4u.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2016 19:42
An: Axel Faust; ootb-infra at xtreamlab.net
Betreff: Re: [OOTB-infra] Virtual Hackathon - Capability of hosting integration/demo environments?
Hi Axel,
this wouldn't be too hard to manage. One question would be how to avoid abuse / missusage. The owner of the servers and the domain will be responsable for any damage if they can't proof the real actor!
Today cloning / setting up is a manual job taking ~ 1 hour.
Bottleneck would be DNS (INFRA team has no access to DNS)
Everything could be easily automated to create a running VM in minutes except DNS (this could be fixed / worked around by a separate wildcard
domain):
* instanciating a new VM can be automated by ovatool command line running anywhere having access to the vm network
* same for management (start/stop/kill/delete/monitor)
* where do you see any licensing issue? all tools are public available or open source.
* simple HTTP(S) automation is easy since we already have only one single reverse proxy (apache-proxy) with an makro to allow new targets to be configured with one line of config
* simple firewall config (for ssh access) should be discussed (see below)
TODO:
* define master VM for cloning / save OVA as master
* create script for cloning (e.g. createnewVM source target)
* create script for loading different alfresco version (e.g. any subrelease)
* create script for vm network config (easiest would be static config and default image will start with dhcp and hostname 'imagename')
* create script for adding virtual host to reverse proxy
At the end only one script/command should control all required use cases (create/remove/stop/start/status/list).
Another aproach would be to configure only one VM to be set up with containers / OpenVZ / vserver running in a separate subnet but I couln't assist in this because this would consume much more work/time to get this done automated.
Open:
* What would be an an adequate console access?
** Real names / registered, verified users should be required to get ssh access
** all testing / public VMs should run in a separate subnet with no connection to the OOTB production systems inside the VM network
** either public key auth or VPN should be forced. I would prefer VPN because then we don't need to configre the firewall for any new vm. We use pfsense. For now there is only UPnP or NAT-PMP as remote API available. REST is announced for next major release (3.0) to automate new firewall rules in case we don't go the vpn route. Anyway to _automate_ VPN / firewall config we need either to create a curl based script à la alf-shell-tool or wait for version 3.0. On the other hand if a participant has only to be created once this may be acceptable to create them by hand.
Heiko
Am 12.07.2016 um 17:57 schrieb Axel Faust:
> Hello INFRA,
>
> During the BeeCon hackathon and afterwards various members of the
> Order (incl Richard) discussed continueing with the tradition of doing
> global, virtual hackathons in the Alfresco community. We tentatively
> have agreed to aim for a Friday within September to have the hackathon
> and that it would be an Alfresco event (in terms of announcements /
> general organisation). But that doesn't exclude us from thinking about
> options for the Order to support such an event, and the community
> members that participate.
>
>
>
> One idea I had revolves around providing (short-term / temporary)
> hosting of integration or demo environments for hackathon project teams.
> Apart from potentially simplifying the setup / startup effort for new
> members of the community that participate, having a publicly
> accessible integration / demo environment for a hackathon project can
> also make it easier for other teams as well as Alfresco / Order
> "hackathon support staff" to check a project's progress; or act as a
> tester and provide suggestions for potential improvements.
>
>
>
> Now, before I spend any more time fantasizing about project build /
> server restart automation, the more immediate question on my mind is:
>
> *Could we as the Order with our current infrastructure support such a
> use case?*
>
> Forget for a moment the financial issues that obviously will need to
> be addressed at some time as well. Can we (with our current
> infratstructure and processes):
>
>
>
> * Add VM(s) or host(s) to our domain within a few days (or with some
> kind of self-service for a small set of authorised members in a few
> hours) - same for tear-down after the event
> * Support automation of instance setup / tear down, e.g. via command
> line tooling either by agents on a host or via SSH
> * Use open technologies / tools to avoid licensing issues when an
> arbitrary number of users (from different backgrounds) use an
> environment we temporarily provide / host
> * Support simple update to any firewall configuration to forward
> (dynamic) ports to the environments
> * Support simple update to any proxy configuration to provide a
> central HTTP(S) entry point
>
> ?
>
>
>
> A potential setup in my mind at this time is the following:
>
> * a separate host or resource-constrained VM is used to bundle all
> demo environment
>
> (a decent amount of memory, CPU and I/O needs to be provisioned, which
> is why I tend towards a separate host)
>
> * Within that host / VM, container-based virtualization is used to
> provide standardized installs for the environments
> * Each environment is publicly accessible when using HTTP(S)-based
> protocols using a host name like
> <projectName>.hackathon.orderofthebee.org
> <http://hackathon.orderofthebee.org> (ideally we use only HTTPS
> which a proxy terminates using a common certificate of the Order,
> and internally use HTTP/AJP)
> * A port forward for SSH should be done for each environment (if the
> environment will actually provide SSH, which a container might not)
> * If host / VM is not publicly accessibe itself, a port forward for
> SSH needs to be done
> * Host / VM polls GitHub of defined project for an environment, builds
> project (Maven-based) and stops/starts container with updated WARs
> * Automation is in place to quickly (re-)initialize an environment as
> project teams are formed / when a data reset is required (automation
> would likely need to update DNS / host or VM firewall settings)
>
> I would exclude most (if not all) of the trickier protocols / Alfresco
> interfaces for the time being, and only consider HTTP-based access.
>
>
>
> Even if we don't end up doing something in that direction for the
> hackathon (for cost/time/resource reasons), I would like to see us
> able to dynamically provide short-term integration / demo environments
> some day in the (near?) future, e.g. to support similar needs for
> conferences / local meetups. So if we can't currently provide this for
> technical / conceptual reasons or limitations, I hope we can derive a
> strategy for (or at least a list of) items that we woulud need to address.
>
>
>
> So, what do you think? Are we currently in a situation that we could
> do something like this? And without excessive effort in terms of
> coordination / work, or too much reliance on the availability of a
> single or a few people?
>
>
>
> Again, this is just an idea of mine at the moment that I would like
> some input / discussion on. This has not yet been discussed on the
> board or with Richard / Ole, as it may be irrelevant if you tell me
> that I am "out of my mind"...
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Axel
>
>
>
>
>
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