[OOTB-hive] Status update

Mon Aug 4 10:26:26 BST 2014

Thank you Cristina for the quick reply! Now we chat in #alfresco channel in
IRC. I think that mailing list is a preferred way to discuss important
points. We live in too different time zones, it may cause problems when we
use IM.

Regarding T-Shirts: looking at us I think that we want to present beer
glasses with OOTB logo :)

Update for my last message: I found Github documentation and moved the
website to http://orderofthebee.github.io/.

Oksana

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Cristina Martín Ruiz <
cristinamartinruiz at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow Oksana!! It's amazing! Good job! :-)
> I think that could be good if we can have one conversation between all of
> us - after holidays - through hangout, Skype, IRC, etc... In order to reach
> one point in common and have this point as a base for Alfresco Summit. We
> can discuss a little bit about the content, or add new ideas, etc... What
> do you think about this?
> I have one idea that I´ve mentioned Boriss: Maybe is a good idea to make
> Bee-T-Shirts for the summit ;-)
>
> Cheers from Belgium!
>
>
> 2014-08-04 8:33 GMT+02:00 Oksana Kurysheva <okurysheva at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear bees,
>>
>>
>> It was rather long vacation after we discussed our activities last time.
>> But I think that if we want the Order to be alive, then we should start
>> doing something for it. I volunteer to take the initiative and be the one
>> who writes this long message. Sit back and read.
>>
>>
>>
>> 1. Our Website
>>
>>
>> In the beginning of the last week I discussed the idea of making a
>> website with Ole, Boriss, Lanre, Douglas and Martin in IRC. As the result I
>> tried to implement the first version of our simple website, that should be
>> published before the Office Hours (August, 15) after we will discuss all
>> issues and complete it.
>>
>> The link to the current version of the website:
>> http://ootb.ossportal.org/
>>
>> After we agree on the final version of the website, it should be moved to
>> http://orderofthebee.org/
>>
>>
>> Please take a look at the website now and only after that continue
>> reading. :)
>>
>>
>> 1.1. Platform
>>
>>
>> At this moment it's plain HTML. We can move it to Drupal, but it means we
>> need a database and all. We created an organization at Github and created a
>> repo for a website. While we use plain-text HTML it's easier to manage a
>> content in this way.
>>
>>
>> If we agree on the current design, I'd like to store "members" list,
>> "add-ons", "system integrators" lists etc in JSON and use AngularJS to show
>> them on the website. It can be done easily. And in this case one day we may
>> use Alfresco as a backend. But as for now I don't see anyone who is ready
>> to configure it ASAP.
>>
>>
>> Now it's a single-page website, and we should think about the place for
>> collaboration and posting a content.
>>
>>
>> For example, list of ideas for new addons and list of addons that are
>> under development now should be done in a Wiki style. Can we use Alfresco
>> Wiki page for it as it was with Hackathon projects?
>>
>>
>> List of system integrators, success stories and add-ons can be done with
>> AngularJS+JSON. In this case I'm ready to do it. If we want to use Drupal,
>> then who can do it?
>>
>>
>> 1.2. More info about the Order
>>
>>
>> Should we mention somewhere that "we just start working, so don't worry
>> that there is no content"? :)
>>
>>
>> Should we add a section for Doug and other Alfresco, Inc managers? Most
>> probably, it's worth telling that:
>>
>> - we are not strange guys who forked Alfresco Community to become a
>> competitor and try to sell own services
>> - we don't want to entice Enterprise customers to our side
>> - there are a lot of small companies who will never buy Enterprise
>> (especially using new pricing) and who are not interesting in Cloud
>> offering, and we want to help them, because Alfresco doesn't want to do it
>> - so Alfresco Inc. should like us and allow us to use their logo and
>> "Alfresco" word :)
>>
>> 1.3. Content
>>
>>
>> Let`s discuss the content of the website. If you want to add more words
>> or a full new section, or just to review syntax errors, please do it. I'm
>> thinking about moving "Activities" section above "About" one, but still not
>> sure about it.
>>
>>
>> 1.4. Contact
>>
>>
>> Is it ok not to have a contact form on the website? I gave links to the
>> IRC and to the mailing list. Should we add a contact form that will send a
>> message to the mailing list automatically?
>>
>>
>> People will want to send requests to add their addon to the list, to
>> publish them as verified system integrators. Do we want to see all these
>> requests in a public mailing list? If I were a Systems Integrator
>> representative, I would be afraid of giving contacts of my customers in the
>> public mailing list.
>>
>>
>> I think that many of us have their private mail servers. For example, I
>> can create an account in my Zimbra that will automatically forward such
>> requests to the list of our private addresses of people who will be
>> responsible for the requests processing. So the request will not be visible
>> in the history of our Mailing List.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Social networks
>>
>>
>> 2.1. Github
>>
>>
>> As I already told before, we created a Github organization to use it for
>> our public repos. Now we have a repo for the website. Any ideas for what
>> else we can use it now?
>>
>>
>> 2.2. Twitter
>>
>>
>> We should give people a chance to follow us. Someone can open the website
>> and see that we are just starting and have nothing to show. They should
>> have the ability to get updates from us. It would be great to publish news
>> somewhere. Like "Check a new add-on in the list", "We created new
>> 'showcase' instance" etc.
>>
>>
>> I registered account @bee-order at Twitter. We can select another one if
>> it is available.
>>
>>
>>
>> 3. Logo - survey
>>
>>
>> On the website you see a bee as a logo. It's a sample. We have more ideas
>> for the logo. Please, vote for the one you like at
>> http://www.rationalsurvey.com/s/12185. Survey will be closed on Saturday.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4. Members
>>
>>
>> 4.1. Who are the members?
>>
>>
>> I added the information about all people who sent at least one message to
>> this mailing list. If you don't want to be published as a member of the
>> Order, please reply to this message. If I forgot someone (and I'm sure I
>> did), please don't be offended, just reply this message and tell that you
>> are in.
>>
>>
>> I added Richard as a "Candidate". On the one hand he is our contact in
>> Alfresco and active member of the community. On the other hand he works for
>> Alfresco and cannot be a member as far as we are "independent". Richard can
>> become a "member" after he leaves Alfresco Inc. ;)
>>
>> Joking aside - here we are to discuss the positioning of the Order. Can
>> we take Alfresco employees to the Order if they are active in the
>> community? What is the selection criteria? Fedora / Red Hat experience
>> shows that it's ok to have vendor employees in the community. However, it
>> also shows that it's really bad if the community is silently dominated by
>> vendor employees. May be we can have two explicit sections in 'Members'
>> area - 'Independent members' and 'Alfresco Inc employees'.
>>
>> 4.2. Info about members
>>
>>
>> I added photos and links to the social networks for all members. It would
>> be great if we can write 5-6 words about ourselves to denote our position
>> in the Order: what we do? for what questions are we the best contact? Now I
>> added such a description only for Richard.
>>
>>
>> Then please review the list of your accounts in social networks and
>> modify it if needed.
>>
>>
>> 4.3. Invite
>>
>>
>> After publishing a website it will be easier to explain who we are to
>> other people. At this point we can start inviting people to join us. It
>> looks especially important to get some members in the US, since we have
>> only Jeff there now. Any ideas on who we should invite? I thought about
>> inviting all community stars (2013, 2014?), but these people are selected
>> by Alfresco Inc. I'm afraid it's not that good if we position ourselves as
>> independent group.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5. Activities. Next steps
>>
>>
>> I added 6 activities to the website. We discussed all of them except
>> "success stories" before.
>>
>>
>> The website is just the first step. Who is ready to work on these
>> "activities"? I can think about list of Addons, SIs and success stories,
>> because they relate to creating a list of criterias for requesters, to
>> publishing on the same website and to googling a lot.
>>
>>
>> Who is ready to work on the first activity? It's very important but looks
>> very difficult for me. And what about Alfresco OOTB edition? Who is ready
>> to update the text on the website for this point and start working on it?
>>
>>
>> Please reply to this email to confirm you are in. All your ideas,
>> comments, actions are welcome.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely yours,
>>
>> Oksana
>>
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