[OOTB-hive] Status update

Mon Aug 4 13:40:02 BST 2014

I really liked the idea.
I hope to be able to help.

Douglas C. R. Paes

*"D**one is better than perfect**"*
Zuckerberg

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Oksana Kurysheva <okurysheva at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you Cristina for the quick reply! Now we chat in #alfresco channel
> in IRC. I think that mailing list is a preferred way to discuss important
> points. We live in too different time zones, it may cause problems when we
> use IM.
>
> Regarding T-Shirts: looking at us I think that we want to present beer
> glasses with OOTB logo :)
>
> Update for my last message: I found Github documentation and moved the
> website to http://orderofthebee.github.io/.
>
> Oksana
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Cristina Martín Ruiz <
> cristinamartinruiz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow Oksana!! It's amazing! Good job! :-)
>> I think that could be good if we can have one conversation between all of
>> us - after holidays - through hangout, Skype, IRC, etc... In order to reach
>> one point in common and have this point as a base for Alfresco Summit. We
>> can discuss a little bit about the content, or add new ideas, etc... What
>> do you think about this?
>> I have one idea that I´ve mentioned Boriss: Maybe is a good idea to make
>> Bee-T-Shirts for the summit ;-)
>>
>> Cheers from Belgium!
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-04 8:33 GMT+02:00 Oksana Kurysheva <okurysheva at gmail.com>:
>>
>>>  Dear bees,
>>>
>>>
>>> It was rather long vacation after we discussed our activities last time.
>>> But I think that if we want the Order to be alive, then we should start
>>> doing something for it. I volunteer to take the initiative and be the one
>>> who writes this long message. Sit back and read.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Our Website
>>>
>>>
>>> In the beginning of the last week I discussed the idea of making a
>>> website with Ole, Boriss, Lanre, Douglas and Martin in IRC. As the result I
>>> tried to implement the first version of our simple website, that should be
>>> published before the Office Hours (August, 15) after we will discuss all
>>> issues and complete it.
>>>
>>> The link to the current version of the website:
>>> http://ootb.ossportal.org/
>>>
>>> After we agree on the final version of the website, it should be moved
>>> to http://orderofthebee.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> Please take a look at the website now and only after that continue
>>> reading. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.1. Platform
>>>
>>>
>>> At this moment it's plain HTML. We can move it to Drupal, but it means
>>> we need a database and all. We created an organization at Github and
>>> created a repo for a website. While we use plain-text HTML it's easier to
>>> manage a content in this way.
>>>
>>>
>>> If we agree on the current design, I'd like to store "members" list,
>>> "add-ons", "system integrators" lists etc in JSON and use AngularJS to show
>>> them on the website. It can be done easily. And in this case one day we may
>>> use Alfresco as a backend. But as for now I don't see anyone who is ready
>>> to configure it ASAP.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now it's a single-page website, and we should think about the place for
>>> collaboration and posting a content.
>>>
>>>
>>> For example, list of ideas for new addons and list of addons that are
>>> under development now should be done in a Wiki style. Can we use Alfresco
>>> Wiki page for it as it was with Hackathon projects?
>>>
>>>
>>> List of system integrators, success stories and add-ons can be done with
>>> AngularJS+JSON. In this case I'm ready to do it. If we want to use Drupal,
>>> then who can do it?
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.2. More info about the Order
>>>
>>>
>>> Should we mention somewhere that "we just start working, so don't worry
>>> that there is no content"? :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Should we add a section for Doug and other Alfresco, Inc managers? Most
>>> probably, it's worth telling that:
>>>
>>> - we are not strange guys who forked Alfresco Community to become a
>>> competitor and try to sell own services
>>> - we don't want to entice Enterprise customers to our side
>>> - there are a lot of small companies who will never buy Enterprise
>>> (especially using new pricing) and who are not interesting in Cloud
>>> offering, and we want to help them, because Alfresco doesn't want to do it
>>> - so Alfresco Inc. should like us and allow us to use their logo and
>>> "Alfresco" word :)
>>>
>>> 1.3. Content
>>>
>>>
>>> Let`s discuss the content of the website. If you want to add more words
>>> or a full new section, or just to review syntax errors, please do it. I'm
>>> thinking about moving "Activities" section above "About" one, but still not
>>> sure about it.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.4. Contact
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it ok not to have a contact form on the website? I gave links to the
>>> IRC and to the mailing list. Should we add a contact form that will send a
>>> message to the mailing list automatically?
>>>
>>>
>>> People will want to send requests to add their addon to the list, to
>>> publish them as verified system integrators. Do we want to see all these
>>> requests in a public mailing list? If I were a Systems Integrator
>>> representative, I would be afraid of giving contacts of my customers in the
>>> public mailing list.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think that many of us have their private mail servers. For example, I
>>> can create an account in my Zimbra that will automatically forward such
>>> requests to the list of our private addresses of people who will be
>>> responsible for the requests processing. So the request will not be visible
>>> in the history of our Mailing List.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Social networks
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.1. Github
>>>
>>>
>>> As I already told before, we created a Github organization to use it for
>>> our public repos. Now we have a repo for the website. Any ideas for what
>>> else we can use it now?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2.2. Twitter
>>>
>>>
>>> We should give people a chance to follow us. Someone can open the
>>> website and see that we are just starting and have nothing to show. They
>>> should have the ability to get updates from us. It would be great to
>>> publish news somewhere. Like "Check a new add-on in the list", "We created
>>> new 'showcase' instance" etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> I registered account @bee-order at Twitter. We can select another one if
>>> it is available.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. Logo - survey
>>>
>>>
>>> On the website you see a bee as a logo. It's a sample. We have more
>>> ideas for the logo. Please, vote for the one you like at
>>> http://www.rationalsurvey.com/s/12185. Survey will be closed on
>>> Saturday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Members
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.1. Who are the members?
>>>
>>>
>>> I added the information about all people who sent at least one message
>>> to this mailing list. If you don't want to be published as a member of the
>>> Order, please reply to this message. If I forgot someone (and I'm sure I
>>> did), please don't be offended, just reply this message and tell that you
>>> are in.
>>>
>>>
>>> I added Richard as a "Candidate". On the one hand he is our contact in
>>> Alfresco and active member of the community. On the other hand he works for
>>> Alfresco and cannot be a member as far as we are "independent". Richard can
>>> become a "member" after he leaves Alfresco Inc. ;)
>>>
>>> Joking aside - here we are to discuss the positioning of the Order. Can
>>> we take Alfresco employees to the Order if they are active in the
>>> community? What is the selection criteria? Fedora / Red Hat experience
>>> shows that it's ok to have vendor employees in the community. However, it
>>> also shows that it's really bad if the community is silently dominated by
>>> vendor employees. May be we can have two explicit sections in 'Members'
>>> area - 'Independent members' and 'Alfresco Inc employees'.
>>>
>>> 4.2. Info about members
>>>
>>>
>>> I added photos and links to the social networks for all members. It
>>> would be great if we can write 5-6 words about ourselves to denote our
>>> position in the Order: what we do? for what questions are we the best
>>> contact? Now I added such a description only for Richard.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then please review the list of your accounts in social networks and
>>> modify it if needed.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4.3. Invite
>>>
>>>
>>> After publishing a website it will be easier to explain who we are to
>>> other people. At this point we can start inviting people to join us. It
>>> looks especially important to get some members in the US, since we have
>>> only Jeff there now. Any ideas on who we should invite? I thought about
>>> inviting all community stars (2013, 2014?), but these people are selected
>>> by Alfresco Inc. I'm afraid it's not that good if we position ourselves as
>>> independent group.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. Activities. Next steps
>>>
>>>
>>> I added 6 activities to the website. We discussed all of them except
>>> "success stories" before.
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is just the first step. Who is ready to work on these
>>> "activities"? I can think about list of Addons, SIs and success stories,
>>> because they relate to creating a list of criterias for requesters, to
>>> publishing on the same website and to googling a lot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Who is ready to work on the first activity? It's very important but
>>> looks very difficult for me. And what about Alfresco OOTB edition? Who is
>>> ready to update the text on the website for this point and start working on
>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Please reply to this email to confirm you are in. All your ideas,
>>> comments, actions are welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely yours,
>>>
>>> Oksana
>>>
>>>
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>>
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