[OOTB-hive] Use of / switch to Discord server?

Axel Faust axel.faust.g at googlemail.com
Fri Sep 14 12:11:34 BST 2018


A quick follow up: To show that the Discord server is still in
evaluation and even I have yet to learn more about it, I accidentally
included the wrong invite link in my last email. If you want to check
out the Discord server, please use https://discord.gg/wEvSqDG instead.


On 14/09/2018 13:07, Axel Faust wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> in his last mail to this list, Younes has mentioned that we as the
> Board have been looking into improvements of the internal
> communication. One aspect of this is that we have setup a Discord
> "server" for the Order of the Bee, created various rooms and played
> with / implemented some integrations. All of this was done as an
> evaluation or at least an interim solution (with regards to how the
> new Board communicates among its members), but with this email I want
> to start the discussion about this potentially becoming a permanent
> solution.
>
> Now, some of you may ask "Why Discord?" and "Don't we already have an
> IRC channel?" / "What about our Mattermost
> (https://chat.orderofthebee.org) server?". So let me give some
> arguments on why we have looked at Discord:
>
>   * In IRC we currently have one public channel on freenode. Some of
>     the discussions (especially among the board members) may not fit
>     in that central, public space. Having the ability to host multiple
>     channels was also a reason behind the 2016/2017 trial of using
>     Mattermost. This is also true for Discord, though other than in
>     Mattermost there is no additional / superfluous concept of teams
>     that separates the channels and you don't need to explicitly
>     add/join to channels, so accessibility-wise it feels to be
>     slightly better.
>   * Using Mattermost requires us to run and maintain our own service
>     on our infrastructure. Since we currently have infrastructure
>     sponsored by Magenta Apps, the cost is not the main concern here,
>     but the available resources in terms of people in charge of
>     administration / maintenance. This was initially covered by the
>     INFRA committee composed of Marsbard, Daren, Lanre, and Heiko. But
>     as most of our committees, the level of activity has approached
>     near zero over time. As the board, we felt it would be better to
>     rely on a free, hosted solution to reduce our internal effort /
>     dependencies, and allow any renewed activities in the INFRA
>     committee (or any successor team / constellation) to be focused on
>     more productive tasks.
>   * Our internal Mattermost server has seen no activity since the
>     2016/2017 trials, and even then the interaction was extremely light.
>   * We recognize that Discord is not open source as opposed to
>     Mattermost. Still, it is a platform with a proven track record
>     among open source communities, has a - in my eyes so far - mostly
>     fair and transparent business practice, and - most essentially -
>     provides unlimited chat history in the free tier.
>   * A significant portion of the #alfresco IRC channel members have
>     made the switch to a Alfresco Discord "server" created by Bhagyas
>     Silva, which may at some time in the future be designated the
>     official community channel by Alfresco. By having our own Discord
>     server, we make it easier for members of #alfresco to engage in
>     our organisation as well, without requiring separate credentials
>     on a disconnected system.
>
> Currently we have the following channels on Discord:
>
>   * #general: the main channel, synchronized with IRC via a bot, so
>     that we can keep the IRC channel alive without cutting anyone off
>   * #github-updates: collecting notifications from GitHub about events
>     on any repository in the OrderOfTheBee GitHub organisation
>   * #board: a private channel for members of the board to discuss /
>     organise their activities
>   * #support-tools: a channel dedicated to the OOTBee support tools
>     addon, which may obsolete / succeed the previously separate Gitter
>     channel (a custom integration with GitHub events provides the same
>     type of notifications we had in Gitter)
>   * #alfresco-irc-bridge: a read-only channel dedicated to keeping a
>     complete history of #alfresco on IRC (chat.alfresco.com runs on a
>     private server of Richard Esplin and may stop to work at any time
>     when alfbot breaks or Alfresco demands the server be shut down /
>     moved to a different name)
>
> There are also a couple of channels for specific tests that may come
> and go, i.e. a bridge to the Alfresco-internal Slack system to allow
> for interaction with Alfresco staff.
>
>
> TL;DR: We have set up a Discord server for evaluation
> (https://discord.gg/kbPSjum), I outlined the reasons why we chose it
> and what channels we currently have, and we want to know your opinions
> on this subject before we call for a vote on making it "official".
>
>
> Regards and my apologies for not being able to write a shorter mail...
>
> Axel
>

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