[OOTB-hive] CE looking bad?

Martin Cosgrave martin at ocretail.com
Fri May 22 20:24:29 BST 2015


I've read the whole thread, except I started a few messages in, and the 
last thing I've done is to come back to the first post and actually look 
at the chart in question. I actually don't have a problem with it, as 
has been said you expect marketing types to do that, but at least there 
at the bottom is a clear download link to CE. I couldn't be more pleased 
that the two are presented together. I'm sure that everyone must have 
had experiences similar to mine of knowing that a product has an open 
source version, and struggling to find any mention of it until you find 
the tiny 'Community' link in dark brown on black at the bottom of the page.

There is certainly no harm in creating a counterpoint page, it could be 
quite tongue in cheek, maybe we can put a lot of red X's next to EE :-P

A quick side note about Honeycomb, there really is a lot of good stuff 
you guys could contribute, especially if you know puppet or a similar 
devops tool, but if not even just building it and commenting on or 
modifying the configurations we have chosen would be really useful. 
There are only two of us involved in it right now and I've been a bit 
busy starting a job and moving city in the last month or so. I just 
noticed it was mentioned a couple of times in the thread so I guess 
there is some value there and mindshare even if nobody's stepping forward.

It's a shame the thread spiralled out of control at the end there. At 
the beginning it was really constructive and it's definitely worth going 
back and looking over those bits :-) . However it's obvious there are 
strong feelings on both sides. Personally I feel very strongly that the 
vandalism to the wiki pages which marks all the useful 
community-oriented documentation as obsolete be reverted.

I thought Ainga's point that we could be more marketing oriented as bees 
was spot on. Perhaps he could step up to the mark on that one, as a bee 
who is also a CEO?

I like very much Heiko's idea for a common model registry, especially if 
he has some models to donate to it. What a great thing for OOTB to have, 
especially as the model system confuses newcomers to the product, both 
for CE and EE I am sure.

I really wish we could have a documentation project. To my mind there 
has never been any decent documentation for alfresco, and Jeff's noble 
efforts, which were amazing, were nonetheless stories about how to do 
certain tasks, and stories do not make decent documentation. I suppose 
this is a common conflict for open source companies trying to sell 
consultancy, or to build a partner ecosystem, if the documentation is 
too good then there will be no need for consultants.

Anyway, great thread really, I actually think that the getting out of 
control bit was probably a misunderstanding, at least as far as I can 
tell re-reading the messages. It's great to know that so many people 
care about the Order. Hopefully we can see a bit more active 
participation as a result.

Have a great weekend

Martin



On 21/05/15 09:59, Andreas Steffan wrote:
> Hallo everybody,
>
> I can't help myself, but the CE looks pretty bad at 
> https://www.alfresco.com/products/community-vs-alfresco-one to me (red 
> all over the place).
>
> Seriously: Imagine you are a somewhat clueless prospect on that page 
> which reads " Ready to get started? Download the edition that is right 
> for you.".
>
> Would you want to give the CE a try?
>
> regards
> Andreas
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