[OOTB-infra] Live showcase

[Martin Cosgrave]

One other thing to consider here, there is only one IPv4 address 
included and adding more gets expensive.

I also had the following conversation in IRC with my friend M^tt who 
runs one of these servers... which might inform our decision about what 
virtualisation to run

<M^tt> no reason not to go esxi really, for me i was trying to be cheap 
and save public v4 ip's
<M^tt> esxi doesnt give me the same virtual networking flexibility that 
linux does
<M^tt> that was my reason for linux/kvm
<M^tt> also security
<M^tt> esxi best practice is mgmt interface not publically available
<M^tt> no way to do that with hetzner
<M^tt> afaik
<M^tt> no firewall infront
<M^tt> unless you routed your mgmt access through a vm on the host
<M^tt> risky if it goes down
<M^tt> another reason i went linux, as i iptables everything but ssh to 
the host
<M^tt> then ssh tunnel to get vnc consoles to guest
<M^tt> if needed
<marsbard> right so you mean I would need to run a vm for the firewall?
<marsbard> and also what do you mean about saving 4 ips? is that if you 
run 4 vms without a firewall?
<M^tt> if you wanted to firewll the mgmt interface, i think there is 
some sort of internal firewall in esxi anyway
<M^tt> i can should i wish forward ports destined for the hosts ip to a 
guest on a private network
<M^tt> couldnt do that on esxi
<M^tt> effectively gives me use of an otherwise tied up address
<marsbard> ok. I guess though that the comment about being able to share 
vms with others might trump these concerns...
<M^tt> so only saves one address, but for me thats important
<M^tt> vendor tie in. yey
<M^tt> install of esxi will require a bit more time, as you will have to 
request a proper net based kvm console to do the install
<M^tt> and hardware support is a question, depending on what you get
<M^tt> but if you dont mind spending the 15eur for the flexipack and 
then what ever for a subnet
<M^tt> then just go esxi
<M^tt> for me i wanted to avoid paying effectively 30eur pcm extra for a 
subnet and just use the 4 provided public addresses



On 16/10/14 11:50, Heiko Robert wrote:
> Hi Ole,
>
> did you follow the discussion? I remember your boss offered a server 
> sponsorship, right?
> Is 49€ per month (+49€ for inital setup) to much or should we start 
> non virtualized using vpsdime or similar?
>
> In case your boss agrees (what would be great!): If /you /order the 
> server you will get the official invoice of course: 
> http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produktmatrix/rootserver-produktmatrix-ex
>
> @martin: I agree KVM is a good alternative but I would prefer ESX to 
> be able to share images with endusers/organisations without any hassle.
> If we get the sponsorship I can set it up the next days.
>
> Thanks
> Heiko
>
> Am 16.10.2014 um 11:35 schrieb Martin Cosgrave:
>> vpsdime is good because the memory is guaranteed, however they are 
>> limited on disk I/O as you say, however I have heard of several 
>> people (douglascrp and Darkstar1 among them) who have run demo 
>> alfresco servers there without problems
>>
>> €50 a month seems to be a lot for now, unless we can find someone to 
>> sponsor that for us, in that case it might be quite good - if that's 
>> capable of running ESXi or KVM then it could suit us, question is how 
>> to fund it?
>

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