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<p>Hello Angel,</p>
<p>since you now are a partner, you may have some information I
don't get to see - but last time John Knowles was on IRC (~2 weeks
ago) he indicated that the next ACS Community release would be a
GA, so ACS 6.1 would have a Community equivalent.</p>
<p>Regards, Axel<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/11/2018 09:36, Angel Borroy
wrote:<br>
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line-height: auto;">I’m open to collaborate, despite my basic
skills on Docker, k8s and many other relevant software involved
in the “new” Alfresco.</div>
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line-height: auto;">Now that Alfresco is ignoring deliberatively
the Community (ACS 6.1 will be published without having a
Community equivalent), it’s time to act. Probably providing a
deployment and developing environment for everyone is the right
approach.</div>
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line-height: auto;">I’m not able to organise this initiative,
but let me know if I can help in any way.</div>
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<p class="airmail_on">On 25 November 2018 at 22:57:06, Axel Faust
(<a href="mailto:axel.faust.g@googlemail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">axel.faust.g@googlemail.com</a>) wrote:</p>
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<div>Hello guys,<br>
<br>
TL;DR: Instead of revisiting our previous pre-bundled
Community build<br>
idea, maybe more short-term / easier to realize value
could be gained by<br>
collaborating on guides / documentation / examples
regarding Docker<br>
deployments to help community members make the switch,
AND/OR create a<br>
standard build setup (in lieu of an updated Alfresco SDK
that may never<br>
arrive) incorporating the new deployment approach and
achieving full<br>
compatibility with the most recent Alfresco releases.<br>
<br>
This mail is a revisit of a mail Daren sent in the middle
of the thread<br>
for volunteers for the DevCon talk submission review
([1]). I don't know<br>
how many actually read the mail considering the misleading
subject line.<br>
In it he asked if there is interest in revisiting our
previous work<br>
around a pre-bundled Alfresco Community build (at the time
using puppet)<br>
and maybe adapted / updating that to be in line with the
current Docker<br>
/ Kubernetes approach.<br>
<br>
In the last two months I have had the (dis-)pleasure to
familiarize<br>
myself with the current state of the Alfresco Docker and
Helm charts /<br>
Kubernetes work in preparation for a training at an
Alfresco partner.<br>
Anyone following me on Twitter might have seen a rant or
two. It<br>
certainly is not the most intuitive and not helped by the
fact that<br>
Alfresco tends to break stuff shortly after providing an
initially<br>
working state.<br>
<br>
Given how tricky it can be for community members /
customers to switch<br>
over to the new approach without any prior experience, I
would say that<br>
any guides / documentation that we as the Order could
collaboratively<br>
put together would be much more valuable/needed at this
point than<br>
simply revisiting the pre-bundled build. As both the
Docker Compose<br>
scripts and Helm charts from Alfresco should only be
considered as a<br>
starting point / reference rather than a ready-to-use
setup, we might<br>
also want to look into providing improved variants for
these (Helm may<br>
be a lower priority as it/Kubernetes likely is not
relevant for most<br>
community users). I know that Angel has already done work
in the area of<br>
an improved compose reference ([2]) - maybe that could be
a starting<br>
point to flesh out / improve upon...<br>
<br>
In my training I have also integrated the new Docker
images as a runtime<br>
environment for ("not-really-rapid") application
development in my Maven<br>
setup, and also used it for the integration tests therein.
In another,<br>
personal project I have started to use Docker containers
even for my<br>
regular unit tests.<br>
Alfresco has still not released a SDK natively compatible
with Alfresco<br>
6, and given their long-term goal of moving
customers/users off of<br>
in-process extensions may likely not provide an updated
version anytime<br>
soon. I know most people in the Order have sufficient
skill to adapt the<br>
current SDK to work with 6, but that is likely not true
for most<br>
community users out there. So maybe we as the Order should
look into<br>
providing a reference build setup of our own, using the
new<br>
incorporating the new Docker approach as best as possible.
And maybe<br>
such work will naturally lead us to general improvements /
definition of<br>
a base image e.g. with regards to image size, code+test
round-trip time<br>
etc...<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Axel<br>
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[1]<br>
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[2] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/keensoft/docker-alfresco">https://github.com/keensoft/docker-alfresco</a><br>
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