[OOTB-hive] Member Criteria, Voting and Badges

Fri Aug 15 02:23:33 BST 2014

I think there is a difference between supporting and participating in the cause and technical qualification.

I think anyone who wants to should be able to say they are part of the group and be listed. If we have a bunch of new folks who actually know very little about the platform that is okay.

Once we have that problem we can address it.

One thing to go look at is mozillians.org (disclaimer: I contribute to the project). Anyone can say they are a Mozillian and be listed, but only "vouched" members have additional privileges. For example, as a vouched Mozillian I get invited to semi-private meetings that mozilla conducts.

A vouching system would be easier and perhaps more meaningful to set up than achievements/badges although the two aren't mutually exclusive.

Jeff

> On Aug 14, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Jan Pfitzner <jan at alfrescian.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I thinks it's a very critical question regarding the future of the ootb.
> I think everyone who is a member of the alfresco community, e.g. has written a blog post, answered some questions in the forum or has published an addon likes to join the order. There are also some tweets on twitter like "what? I'm not even listed".
> 
> So, from my point of view there should be sth. like a board. The main task for the board is organizing. It should be formed by a few people (e.g 5) that are managing the ootb.
> 
> But I'm also thinking that the ootb should be open to everyone. Everyone should be able to join incl. a statement why he'd like to join and what he would like contribute (addons, reviews, tutorials, docs ....). Imho a full flavored badge system is a bit 'over-engineered' as there has to be rules, maybe a automatism etc.
> 
> I'm not sure about the listing freelancers topic. If the ootb-campaign is successful then every alfresco freelancer or agencies likes to be listed as we're talking about making money then.
> I would prefer just a normal member listing without any commercial backgrounds.
> Cheers, jan
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-08-14 17:45 GMT+02:00 Martin Cosgrave <martin at ocretail.com>:
>> Hi Bees
>> 
>> I have been buzzing around with aviriel and douglascrp in #orderofthebee - you really should join, it's lovely and sunny and there are lots of flowers to drink nectar from.
>> 
>> We were discussing what it means to be a member of the order, and what limits to set on membership.
>> 
>> Personally I feel like anyone who wants to be a member should be allowed. I think aviriel prefers some kind of minimum qualification.
>> 
>> We discussed using 'gamification' to differentiate members, in much the same way Stack Overflow does, by giving out qualifying badges. What badges do you think we could have. We discussed "founder bee" for the original members and "father bee" for Jeff Potts and possibly John Newton if he joined. What other ideas?
>> 
>> We also need to think about voting. Who can vote? And what are they voting for?
>> 
>> I'm going to bee lazy, and rather than summarise the conversation I'm just pasting it below for you to have a look at it.
>> 
>> Buzz buzz, and remember, you can't spell beer without "bee".
>> 
>> marsbard
>> 
>> 
>> <aviriel> marsbard: douglascrp: what do you think about categorization/adding roles for the people?
>> <douglascrp> I think it's good
>> <douglascrp> but I have no experience on this "community" thing, so I don't know how to do that, or how it would be better organized
>> <aviriel> douglascrp: but do you know what role can you have in the Order?
>> <douglascrp> I like to read, a lot, so I think I could select and send texts I think would be useful
>> <marsbard> if roles are obvious and people are stepping up for them then no problem but I wouldn't force it, ppl may want to contribute without a specific role
>> <douglascrp> marsbard, I agree
>> <douglascrp> I could help on that and on addons tests and, again, recomendations
>> <douglascrp> select and publish content, not creating it, but filtering it
>> <douglascrp> did you get what I tried to explain? lol
>> <marsbard> yes I think so
>> <aviriel> marsbard: yes, but if we have more than 30-40 people, we should understand who does what.
>> <douglascrp> I don't know if you have the bob's fast food there, but their employees have a kind of a "sign" on ther id cards, that tell what they do, or what they are trained to do
>> <marsbard> all I'm saying is that not everyone will have a role. of course some people will have defined roles
>> <aviriel> I afraid of a number of newbie freelancers who want to join the order just to say "I am a member of the Order, I can make any project". So I want to filter people on the stage of joining. For example by requirement "Show what did you do for the community"
>> <douglascrp> aviriel, got that, but I think that is another subject, right? who can become a member
>> <aviriel> yes, it is
>> <aviriel> I mix subjects
>> <douglascrp> and how about create different kind of members? members and "simple followers"?
>> <marsbard> I'm not sure that there is a 1:1 between members and freelancers, I think if it would be too complicated to have every freelancer as a full member that wanted to be in a directory
>> <marsbard> I guess I am echoing what douglascrp said
>> 
>> 
>> <aviriel> douglascrp: everyone wants to become a member. If we allow "members" and "followers" then everyone tries to do meet minimum requirements to become a member. And do nothing after that.
>> <aviriel> So I think that everyone can be a member and vote. But not everyone will participate in Order administration (internal activities). So if you write blog posts sometimes - you are a member. If you build OOTB edition or review add-ons to add them to Honeycomb, then you are a member of Board of the Order or what is the correct name of the Order Adminsitration..
>> <marsbard> these are interesting issues that we will need to think about
>> <aviriel> marsbard: and we should think about them quick
>> <marsbard> in which case, maybe we make everyone a member like you say, but getting into our freelance directory will require qualification
>> <marsbard> also we probably do need to have core admin as a separate group
>> <marsbard> if people want to join just to be part of the order, I think that's great
>> <marsbard> as they contribute maybe we can recognise them with badges
>> <aviriel> marsbard: yes, you got why I want to use badges
>> <marsbard> eg "10 blog posts" badge etc.
>> <marsbard> yeah I like it, like "gamifying"
>> <marsbard> I'm thinking like Stack Overflow (or other stack exchange sites)
>> <aviriel> after it we will need more complex website, not plain html
>> <marsbard> yes it could start getting difficult
>> <aviriel> people with 2-3 blog posts and 1 obsolete add-on are "community members", but we cannot say them "you cannot join the order" if we want to see them in the community in the future
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