[OOTB-hive] Status update

[Richard Esplin]

There are Alfresco partners who would likely take a hard line on their 
employees participating in a community effort like Order of the Bee. I don't 
think the order should concern itself with that.

I have assurances from Alfresco management that employees can participate in 
the Order so long as it continues around the goals currently defined. (I 
described it as "building a healthy open source ecosystem around Alfresco 
Community Edition, with independent governance.") If other employers are going 
to discourage their employees, I hope that they find it difficult to attract the 
most talented Alfresco experts.

Perhaps the order should look at the governance documents for Debian, CentOS, 
Apache, or Wildfly in order to define solid principles?

Richard

On Saturday, August 09, 2014 09:03:01 Andreas Steffan wrote:
> I wish it would be that easy.
> 
> Imagine and  employer (Alfresco Inc. and/or partner) learning about an
> employee promoting  the use of the CE in production and contributing
> support and patches (doing it for  free or even charging).
> 
> regards
> Andreas
> 
> On 08/08/2014 11:06 AM, Jan Pfitzner wrote:
> > Hi,
> > @Oksana: Nice! thanks for pushing things forward.
> > 
> > regarding voting & members:
> > imho we should be more open here - openess is a key! It doesn't count if
> > someone works for Alfresco, an Alfresco Partner or 'Microsoft' :). The
> > goal is to establish an community board that is independent from Alfresco
> > Inc. So if anyone likes to spent his or her time supporting the OOTB it's
> > fantastic as long as they respect the code of conduct, e.g. not acting
> > just to promote his commercial product/addon/extension....
> > 
> > Cheers, jan
> > 
> > 
> > Sent by mobile
> > 
> >> Am 07.08.2014 um 20:37 schrieb Andreas Steffan <a.steffan at contentreich.de>:
> >>> On 08/04/2014 08:33 AM, Oksana Kurysheva wrote:
> >>> 4. Members
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 4.1. Who are the members?
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I added the information about all people who sent at least one message
> >>> to this mailing list. If you don't want to be published as a member of
> >>> the Order, please reply to this message. If I forgot someone (and I'm
> >>> sure I did), please don't be offended, just reply this message and
> >>> tell that you are in.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I added Richard as a "Candidate". On the one hand he is our contact in
> >>> Alfresco and active member of the community. On the other hand he
> >>> works for Alfresco and cannot be a member as far as we are
> >>> "independent". Richard can become a "member" after he leaves Alfresco
> >>> Inc. ;)
> >>> 
> >>> Joking aside - here we are to discuss the positioning of the Order.
> >>> Can we take Alfresco employees to the Order if they are active in the
> >>> community? What is the selection criteria? Fedora / Red Hat experience
> >>> shows that it's ok to have vendor employees in the community. However,
> >>> it also shows that it's really bad if the community is silently
> >>> dominated by vendor employees. May be we can have two explicit
> >>> sections in 'Members' area - 'Independent members' and 'Alfresco Inc
> >>> employees'.
> >> 
> >> Ok, so it seems Alfresco employees need to be treated special as they
> >> cannot be seen as independent.
> >> 
> >> How are partner employees different?
> >> 
> >> Is the mission stated on the website compatible with Alfresco/Partner
> >> employees?
> >> 
> >> After reading the mission as a customer, I would assume to find people
> >> helping me with the CE here. Does that fit into context ?
> >> 
> >> Maybe Doug should be asked what Alfresco Inc. thinks about OOTB and how
> >> it would like it to be.
> >> 
> >> regards
> >> Andreas
> >> 
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