[OOTB-hive] OOTB-hive Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1

Lanre el_gigantes at hotmail.co.uk
Sun Aug 10 11:45:22 BST 2014 

Hello all.

Apologies for the late reply but it’s been hectic. (Yes I know the topic’s probably moved on)
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On 04 Aug 2014, at 08:41, ootb-hive-request at xtreamlab.net wrote:

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>   1. Status update (Oksana Kurysheva)
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> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 10:33:57 +0400
> From: Oksana Kurysheva <okurysheva at gmail.com>
> To: ootb-hive at xtreamlab.net
> Subject: [OOTB-hive] Status update
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> Dear bees,
> 
> 
> It was rather long vacation after we discussed our activities last time.
> But I think that if we want the Order to be alive, then we should start
> doing something for it. I volunteer to take the initiative and be the one
> who writes this long message. Sit back and read.
> 
> 
> 
> 1. Our Website
> 
> 
> In the beginning of the last week I discussed the idea of making a website
> with Ole, Boriss, Lanre, Douglas and Martin in IRC. As the result I tried
> to implement the first version of our simple website, that should be
> published before the Office Hours (August, 15) after we will discuss all
> issues and complete it.
> 
> The link to the current version of the website: http://ootb.ossportal.org/
> 
> After we agree on the final version of the website, it should be moved to
> http://orderofthebee.org/
> 
> 
> Please take a look at the website now and only after that continue reading.
> :)
> 
Loved it when I saw it (not currently online as of my reply) great work.
> 
> 1.1. Platform
> 
> 
> At this moment it's plain HTML. We can move it to Drupal, but it means we
> need a database and all. We created an organization at Github and created a
> repo for a website. While we use plain-text HTML it's easier to manage a
> content in this way.
> 
I know of drupal the CMS but I have 0 experience with it. I have worked with typo3 in the past and I am currently learning the typo3 Neos CMS which is supposed to make it easier for editors to manage websites. I am willing to port and manage it and disseminate information about how to work with it on a periodic basis.
> 
> If we agree on the current design, I'd like to store "members" list,
> "add-ons", "system integrators" lists etc in JSON and use AngularJS to show
> them on the website. It can be done easily. And in this case one day we may
> use Alfresco as a backend. But as for now I don't see anyone who is ready
> to configure it ASAP.
> 
> 
> Now it's a single-page website, and we should think about the place for
> collaboration and posting a content.
> 
> 
> For example, list of ideas for new addons and list of addons that are under
> development now should be done in a Wiki style. Can we use Alfresco Wiki
> page for it as it was with Hackathon projects?

I do (and believe I have discussed this with Martin at some point in the last month or so) that one of the first things we can do 
is to that the ootb adopts add-ons that we can “pseudo” support or that we recognise extends or is conducive to productivity in alfresco community edition. To this end I think for the list of add ons we ought to have a virtual meeting about this.
I recommend every member submits a list of add ons with a summary note of what each add-on does
and possibly show a short demo in the virtual meeting followed by a “why I think it’s a good addition” / “what can be done to improve it”.

> 
> 
> List of system integrators, success stories and add-ons can be done with
> AngularJS+JSON. In this case I'm ready to do it. If we want to use Drupal,
> then who can do it?
> 
> 
> 1.2. More info about the Order
> 
> 
> Should we mention somewhere that "we just start working, so don't worry
> that there is no content"? :)
> 
Yes, yes yes
> 
> Should we add a section for Doug and other Alfresco, Inc managers? Most
> probably, it's worth telling that:
> 
> - we are not strange guys who forked Alfresco Community to become a
> competitor and try to sell own services
> - we don't want to entice Enterprise customers to our side
> - there are a lot of small companies who will never buy Enterprise
> (especially using new pricing) and who are not interesting in Cloud
> offering, and we want to help them, because Alfresco doesn't want to do it
> - so Alfresco Inc. should like us and allow us to use their logo and
> "Alfresco" word :)
> 
> 1.3. Content
> 
> 
> Let`s discuss the content of the website. If you want to add more words or
> a full new section, or just to review syntax errors, please do it. I'm
> thinking about moving "Activities" section above "About" one, but still not
> sure about it.
> 
> 
> 1.4. Contact
> 
> 
> Is it ok not to have a contact form on the website? I gave links to the IRC
> and to the mailing list. Should we add a contact form that will send a
> message to the mailing list automatically?
> 
> 
> People will want to send requests to add their addon to the list, to
> publish them as verified system integrators. Do we want to see all these
> requests in a public mailing list? If I were a Systems Integrator
> representative, I would be afraid of giving contacts of my customers in the
> public mailing list.
> 
> 
> I think that many of us have their private mail servers. For example, I can
> create an account in my Zimbra that will automatically forward such
> requests to the list of our private addresses of people who will be
> responsible for the requests processing. So the request will not be visible
> in the history of our Mailing List.
> 
> 

We can trial this out but what is the potential for spam drowning out useful contacts?
I recommend irc as it will bring more people into the channel and add more momentum to community support.

> 
> 2. Social networks
> 
> 
> 2.1. Github
> 
> 
> As I already told before, we created a Github organization to use it for
> our public repos. Now we have a repo for the website. Any ideas for what
> else we can use it now?
> 
> 
> 2.2. Twitter
> 
> 
> We should give people a chance to follow us. Someone can open the website
> and see that we are just starting and have nothing to show. They should
> have the ability to get updates from us. It would be great to publish news
> somewhere. Like "Check a new add-on in the list", "We created new
> 'showcase' instance" etc.
> 
> 
> I registered account @bee-order at Twitter. We can select another one if it
> is available.
> 
> 
> 
> 3. Logo - survey
> 
> 
> On the website you see a bee as a logo. It's a sample. We have more ideas
> for the logo. Please, vote for the one you like at
> http://www.rationalsurvey.com/s/12185. Survey will be closed on Saturday.
> 
> 
> 
> 4. Members
> 
> 
> 4.1. Who are the members?
> 
> 
> I added the information about all people who sent at least one message to
> this mailing list. If you don't want to be published as a member of the
> Order, please reply to this message. If I forgot someone (and I'm sure I
> did), please don't be offended, just reply this message and tell that you
> are in.
> 
> 
> I added Richard as a "Candidate". On the one hand he is our contact in
> Alfresco and active member of the community. On the other hand he works for
> Alfresco and cannot be a member as far as we are "independent". Richard can
> become a "member" after he leaves Alfresco Inc. ;)
> 
> Joking aside - here we are to discuss the positioning of the Order. Can we
> take Alfresco employees to the Order if they are active in the community?
> What is the selection criteria? Fedora / Red Hat experience shows that it's
> ok to have vendor employees in the community. However, it also shows that
> it's really bad if the community is silently dominated by vendor employees.
> May be we can have two explicit sections in 'Members' area - 'Independent
> members' and 'Alfresco Inc employees'.
> 
> 4.2. Info about members
> 
> 
> I added photos and links to the social networks for all members. It would
> be great if we can write 5-6 words about ourselves to denote our position
> in the Order: what we do? for what questions are we the best contact? Now I
> added such a description only for Richard.
> 
Agreed when do you want this?
> 
> Then please review the list of your accounts in social networks and modify
> it if needed.
> 
> 
> 4.3. Invite
> 
> 
> After publishing a website it will be easier to explain who we are to other
> people. At this point we can start inviting people to join us. It looks
> especially important to get some members in the US, since we have only Jeff
> there now. Any ideas on who we should invite? I thought about inviting all
> community stars (2013, 2014?), but these people are selected by Alfresco
> Inc. I'm afraid it's not that good if we position ourselves as independent
> group.
> 
> 
> 
> 5. Activities. Next steps
> 
> 
> I added 6 activities to the website. We discussed all of them except
> "success stories" before.
> 
> 
> The website is just the first step. Who is ready to work on these
> "activities"? I can think about list of Addons, SIs and success stories,
> because they relate to creating a list of criterias for requesters, to
> publishing on the same website and to googling a lot.
> 
> 
> Who is ready to work on the first activity? It's very important but looks
> very difficult for me. And what about Alfresco OOTB edition? Who is ready
> to update the text on the website for this point and start working on it?

I will be meeting with Boriss and Cristina to discuss about ootb activities in a week or so.
One of us will then post what we came up with.
> 
> 
> Please reply to this email to confirm you are in. All your ideas, comments,
> actions are welcome.
> 
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> 
> Oksana
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